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A Doula Speaks Out

The majority of doctors and nurses would not like us even if we did not say one word while with the parents and even if we just humbly sat in the corner of the room and the reason being is because they know we have a different scope of training and we see the holistic and the technocratic side of things & they know we could call them on bluffs when there is one if need be. We in some way are a threat because we hold them accountable. I know every doula has a different personality different scopes of practice, different levels of how much they know, but I'm assuming we are all helping parents with the same goal to empower them, to protect their space, to help educate them, to encourage an support them and to help them have a birth that they feel in control of so that they do not have to have resentment from "just not knowing" which will ultimately help them to be better parents and more bonded with their babies.

Parents are smarter than that I'm sure any questions they ask their Doula they trust or they can tell if the doula does not know what they are talking about. If they didn't trust us on something they would call their Dr. just as if they didn't trust their Dr. on something they would call us. You know I sit here thinking, I could be considered one of those "radical Doulas" And this just dawned on me at a recent birth Just the other day I get called to a repeat clients house (This mom took Lamaze & Bradley has read every book on childbirth that there is, has a college degree, and is highly educated on birth _ As I tell her often, I still don't get why she hasn't chosen home-birth for herself yet :~) )

2nd baby, we get to the hospital she is 10 & pushing, (btw, I told mom we really needed to leave for hospital mom was like are you sure, you better be right I better be ready to have this baby, I'm not sure if I'm ready to go etc.) I tell Triage nurse "By the way mom is pushing 1st ugly look shot my way (Dad's telling mom Blow Blow Blow Blow out the candles) Nurse says well most woman aren't sure when their baby will come giggle, giggle, giggle, I have to put her on the strip for 25 minutes & if all is well then we will take her to her room, so nurse goes to get paper work while we continue helping mom blow as baby is crowning at this point

I call the nurse back in I'm not kidding mom is having the baby 2nd dirty look my way, she still ignores me & gets the straps & monitor ready to put mom on monitor, she searches for the heartbeat around mid belly and of course no heartbeat there so she lifts the sheet & says I see baby's head, well duh, finds heartbeat much lower listens for 2 whole seconds throws it down & runs out grabs bunch of nurses they run her bed down to room with her asking can I push now (they told her no now have to wait to get to room.)

A nurse said to me I hope you got her clothes and stuff. Yes, I'd done that! (Oh now I'm useful huh?) We get to room mom says, "Can I push now?" Nurse says, "No we need to get you in the next bed and wait on DOCTOR. They tell mom to switch beds (are you kidding me mom's baby is crowning even more at this point - with her fighting not to push) So dad and I help her as no nurses offered help (so I'm handy again huh?). One nurse is sitting out equipment and supplies, scissors, clamp etc. another nurse is grabbing a Dr. from the hall with a different practice as her Dr. is in a different delivery) Mom while switching beds said you aren't going to give episiotomy right and the nurse said well not yet, with mom looking nervous and confused, I could not help my radical self I turned and said what is that supposed to mean?

The nurse after dirty look # 3 said very sweetly oh I just mean we haven't done anything to her yet. So Dr. comes in, Mom has low long groan as baby's head comes out & nurse says no no no hon, no noise just hold your breath & push and now mom's looking confused so me with my radical self again couldn't help myself & said You made it to 10 centimeters with no help and look you brought your babies head out already you need to just refocus not listen to anyone & finish bringing your baby out any way you want to so mom looks
re-composed and another groan out comes the rest of baby, meanwhile Dr. & nurses giving me another dirty look.

As nurse was sitting baby on Mom's chest I was in the process of saying dad you want to cut the cord right? Too late - already a done deal! He just totally ignored me and dad & cut the cord. So yes the doctors and nurses in that room were not thrilled with me, they did not like me not one bit, But I am sorry I was with mom for 5 hours they had been with her for 5 minutes, she was strong and knew what she was doing but yet they were the ones who still felt the need to control how mom's birth went, I was just protecting mom's space and instincts, if that makes me a radical then I am a proud radical!

Of course there was more to deal with Postpartum, and when I left the hospital I walked past the nurses station and said thanks Bye! Do you think one single nurse smiled or spoke? Of course I will go to mom humbly at PP visit and tell her how wonderful it all went and unless she brings up the ugly comments spoken to her or her husbands resentment of not getting to cut the cord I will also not say a word, I will hold her birth as dear and as close to me as she does. If she thinks all went well & liked her nurses I to will say yes they were great. I am sure you have all had births like this as I know this is common but I guess my point being with telling this story is that we all are somewhat this way only because this is part of our job it is unavoidable.

It really saddens me that first of all we can't just be supporting and encouraging that we are put in the spot of protector, these mom's do look at us when the Dr.or nurse ask or starts to do some intervention and why do they look to us it's not because we have manipulated them or forced them or coerced them, no it's because we have spent a lot of time with them, we have answered their questions, given them resources and respected them. If there is ever a day that when a mom or dad looks at me for an encouraging word or for support or anything else & I have to tell them well don't look at me I can't help you then what's the use?

Sonya Pailes
Homeschool Mom to Tricia 15, Valarie 13, Steven 9, Thomas 3, and Vincent
10-22-03
Wife to Chuck
Owner of Miracles Supply & childbirth Services
www.miraclessupply.com

How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these.
-George Washington Carver


What Will He Remember?
By Erin Donnelly Sigman

As I sit here, typing with one hand (a sleeping, nursing baby in my left arm), I am drawn to reflect on what my son will remember about having an attachment parenting, extended breastfeeding, stay-at-home-mum. I know he will remember his blissful, soft, loving homebirth but what else is in store for his life?

Will he remember that we lived in a two-bedroom apartment? I think he will remember that even though he didn't have his own back yard, Mummy took the time to walk with him to the park and push him on the swings. He'll remember that Mummy was always home with him to nurse him to sleep for his naps and hold him while he slept.

Will he remember Mummy bending over a sewing machine, stitching up holes in his already hand me down clothes? I bet he'll remember the fact that when he skinned his knee, causing that hole, Mummy was there to kiss it better and offer him a frozen fruit bar. He won't remember that Mummy never had the latest fashions but he will remember the lavender smell of Mummy's t-shirts as she held him close, whenever he needed a hug.

Will he remember that we drove a 14-year-old car and that we occasionally had to take the bus when the car was in the shop? I guarantee he'll remember Mummy singing the ABCs to him while the car warmed up. He'll remember taking that bus to play groups where he romped around with other daycare free, breastfed, home schooled children.

Will he remember that he didn't have a crib with matching bedding and curtains? I'm sure he'll remember, instead, snuggling close to his Mummy in the family bed, hearing her heart beat, nursing without even waking fully. He'll remember always being happy at night and never having known the terror of waking up from hunger in a dark room, alone in the middle of the night.

Will he remember never staying at the Hilton or having room service on family vacations? Nah, he'll remember singing along to Daddy's guitar around a warm campfire. He'll remember Mummy and Daddy taking him on hikes and telling him about all the different types of desert flowers. He'll remember gathering wild eatables on the trail and creating his own meals, not the fact that we never dined in fancy restaurants.
Most of all he'll remember me, his Mum. He'll know that I was always there for him, for hugs, kisses, nurses, explanations and support. He'll know the tastes of home made meals and he'll never, ever know what it is like to be left in a daycare so that Mummy and Daddy could have things like a big house, stylish clothes, a new car, fancy furniture, or lavish vacations.

Erin Donnelly Sigman is a SAHM to her son Nykki. She's a UNLV grad, vegan rawfoodist, EC-ing, yoga lovin', eco-conscience, radical feminist. She makes her happy home in Southern Nevada. Visit her at http://www.angelfire.com/indie/parentin
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OB says moms NEVER have trouble in a hospital

Heather and I had set up an appointment with the closest hospital to our midwife, to go meet them and see what their rules are and such in the case of having to actually go there.  Mostly so we can tell our friends, that yes, we did go see the hospital, but it was somewhat nice to see the facilities.  The nurses and whoever else were on the labor and delivery floor were quite nice and they were surprised that we would go so far outside of Pittsburgh. But we had a good time there -- I always figure it is a good thing if you end up with a hug(!) and they asked about why we were going so far, and if we had had a previous child and such.  They know our midwife and were generally pretty positive about her. Their boss, on the other hand, wasn't as friendly, although I am not sure if she was overly negative to make sure that we understood they were not the official backup.

When we met with one of the obstetricians -- a whole lot of fun. I asked him what he thought of our midwife, and he said, "She's... fine... Anyone who goes to a midwife is taking a risk of ending up dead.  When I worked at McGee there were nurse midwives who did births outside of the hospital and there were a number of girls who bled to death.  You have to think of the outcomes, and as an obstetrician, dying is not acceptable." Heather then beat me to interrupting, "I think there are risks in all births, and in going to a hospital".  He said, "No, there isn't." 

I said that was an outright lie, and he restated, "There are not any risks of the mother dying under the care of an obstetrician."

I said, "goodbye", and left.

We drove back to our midwife, and while she was somewhat surprised at his remarks about midwives, did say that he isn't as nice as the other obstetrician, although he had always been cheerful and friendly to her. Hopefully, we won't have to meet him again.

But, I suppose since there aren't any risks with him, I would want to have all medical care provided by him.  Somehow I am not thinking that I can trust him as far as I can throw him.

Jonathan M. Daley
email: jondaley@alumni.cmu.edu
website: www.snurgle.org/~jondaley
 


I would like to comment on this book by Laurie Morgan whose website is linked from the Compleat Mother website.  Just remember--there are always two sides to every story!!  I was one of the midwives involved in Laurie's first birth.  Like I said, there is more than her side to this story.  The info she is relating in this book is not completely true.  An 'unhappy' birth has many factors, and isn't just one person's problem/fault.   It seems she is only remembering the events the way she 'wants' to remember them, not the way they really happened.  I was horrified at the way that first birth went.  The
interference by outsider midwives was terrible and I think contribute to the problems.  She definitely doe not have all the facts.  I am so sorry she has such a bad feeling about all that.  And I'm glad she found a channel for her energy.  I wish her and her family only good things.

Name withheld


Hello.  I need help from your experienced readers.  I am pregnant with my second and still nursing my first who is only 11.5 months old.  I am really worried about being able to nurse my son through my pregnancy.  I had planned on nursing him until he was ready to wean.  I am willing to continue as long as possible.  However, in my last pregnancy I had VERY sensitive breasts and nipples. It also seems as if my milk supply is already changing.  He is just now starting to eat fairly well and he is also sensitive to milk protein in my breastmilk.  I am worried about when/if my milk supply decreases or if he does end up weaning during this pregnancy, what to supplement his diet with.  I do not want to use cow's milk or soy milk.  Has anyone out there not used any kind of milk in the diets of their children who were young when weaned??  Please write me at aparker@vcn.com  Thanks!

 
Amy
Laramie, Wyoming

I just received my first Mother, along with back issues, and I could not be happier! I have already read 3 issues since I got them 2 days ago. I keep them by the nursing chair, as that is the only time my sweet daughter will allow me to read them :) I have felt so alone at times b/c most of my family and friends are unsupportive. Mother is exactly what I
needed to help validate my choices as a mom!

Thank you so much!

Natalie Allen


I'm 73 years old have been a widow for 20 years. The most beautiful
memories of my marriage with Samuel H Coxe are the eight years of nursing our two sons. Send me another subscription and a gift subscription for Maria who is a new mother.

Ruth B. Coxe, Old Lyme, Connecticut


I seriously doubt that Catherine would approve of you promoting your anti-gay propaganda, on her website. Shame on you for featuring "after its kind". I am greatly disappointed in the direction you are  taking. What's next? Jerry Falwell quotes?

Mrs. Hatch should we then follow God's will and  like  Lot, offer up our virgin daughters to be "molested and beaten" by  the angry mob outside, in order to save the angels we harbor in our homes? What kind of moral  story is that?  In the past, this was a magazine that celebrated  the power, beauty, and  diversity of all Mothers. If you want to attribute the decline of society to anything, it is, and has been the patriarchal  "dominator" model of society perpetuated by religions like Christianity for the last 5,000 years. With the refusal to acknowledge the divine feminine, comes the devaluing of "feminine qualities", such as peace, nurturance and caring and ultimately the devaluing and destruction of indigenous peoples and the natural world.

Sincerely,
Christine Barto


I NEED to subscribe

This morning I stood at the check-out counter at my local food co-op unable to put your magazine down.  The next day I sat on a bench outside the large city hospital where I work as a lactation consultant and devoured the birth and breastfeeding stories. I NEED to subscribe.  My babies were born at home, nursed for years and were slinged constantly.
Working in a hospital environment where babies are left to cry alone,
mothers are discouraged from sleeping with their babies and breastfed
babies are given formula "just in case", where the hospital boasts a 95%
epidural rate and vacuum extraction is common, I feel very lonely and sad.  Thanks for reminding me that I am not crazy to believe that birth and breastfeeding are normal life processes that work extremely well until we get in the way.

        Nan Kyer, Scotland, Connecticut


Maternity Leave Policy

I have a question for you.  I am trying to advocate a maternity leave policy with my employer as to what is the appropriate and healthy amount of time for a woman and the newborn child to stay AT HOME right after birth without returning to work.  I have heard in Chinese medicine that it is 30 days, and anthroposophic medicine states 40 days without leaving the house. However, for my presentation, I need verifiable resources.  I was wondering if you could write me back with an answer and short explanation as to why. 
Sincerely,
Tania Gonzalez

Dear Tania,
Sorry, I am not familiar with the term "anthroposophic medicine".
In the book "Queen Jin's Hand Book of Pregnancy " Fred Jeremy Seligson states the new mother "won't venture out into the daylight for the customary one hundred days. This is called Sanku (Following delivery) Jori (Caring for a body and mind). page 91. Mothers 'return' to work at different times in different cultures and for different reasons.In another part of the world a mother gives birth on her way to take lunch to the men in the field. The only time she gets is the time it takes for her to give birth to her baby and placenta. Other cultures provide an extended period of time of Rest, Relaxation and Rejuvenation for the mother and new babe.
I know women who have taken 3 weeks to 3 months off at which time they returned to work with their babies in a sling prepared to do the best for their employers as well as their babies. Some European countries provide for extended family leave, six months to a year or more.
For our culture at this time it varies widely. As long as the mother has
established an adequate milk supply and the work she is doing will not
interfere with meeting her babies needs, working 'outside the home' is
fine. My favorite working mother was Sakakawea, the 16 year-old Native American woman who took her three month-old baby across the Rocky Mountains to the Pacific Ocean with the Lewis and Clark Expedition from 2004-2006. Sakasawea is the first federal employee to take her baby to work with her. Baby Pomp was still breastfeeding 2 1/2 years later when they returned to the Mandan Indian Villiages in what is now North Dakota.
Sincerely,
--Jody--


Hi there,

I love all the e-mails I get about the magazine. I live in Calgary, and want to know where I can find your magazine locally.  We are about to adopt and I really want to read the article on Adoption and Breastfeeding.  Anyone else out there who has already nursed adopted children, please
feel free to e-mail me!

Monika Kinner-Whalen
email: ashera@telusplanet.net


Young Mother-to-be

Hello my name is Judi I am 19 yrs. old and a single mother-to-be from California. I just found out today that I am pregnant. The hard part about finding out, is that, it was not planned, the father-to-be is no longer around because he was abusive towards me. I have no job and no financial means. I have mental support from two friends, not family. I love kids, and I have lived a life a 19 yr. old should not. I am about 4-6wks pregnant now. I will find a way to provide for this/ my child and myself, I will take my responsibilities during pregnancy and after. I was raised with no mom and dad, a broken family. It will not be that way for my child, if I have to I will be mommy and daddy  and be the best at it.
       I am not ready have no one by my side but am willing and strong, I will love this unborn child, no matter the circumstance, and will find a way to provide and give this unborn baby (mine) everything it needs.


she'll let me know when she is done

When I was breastfeeding my first baby girl, no one else was. I got pregnant again when she was 9 months old, regretfully, I stopped breastfeeding because I didn't know that you could when you were pregnant, and I was afraid to miscarry. But I miscarried anyway, and by that time my milk had dried up. When I got pregnant with my second, I vowed she would never know formula. We had internet then and I found Compleat Mother. Since then it has kept me strong, and I am a huge breastfeeding advocate. I also preach to others its importance. This time around I know a steadily growing circle of mothers in my area that are now breastfeeding. My sister breastfeeds 14 month old twin girls. I am happily still breastfeeding my 15 month girl with no plans of stopping. We both love it, she gazes at me adoringly and says, "booboob!". I started sharing everything I was reading from my subscription with him. Now he tells every pregnant woman he knows to breastfeed! When I read Compleat Mother, it makes me laugh and sometimes cry. And when my husband asks me just how long I plan to breastfeed, well, I look in my daughter's huge, trusting blue eyes and say," she'll let me know when she is done."

~Hollie Lee


Greetings!

I love this magazine.  I subbed a while back and have now lost all my copies to passing mothers (I just kind of leave them places, too).

I live in a small town in Kentucky.  Even though we are close to a "big city," there are not many options for mommas who might want to birth at home in this community.  I have started a support group for "alterna-moms" in my home, but some do not feel comfortable coming to my house (we are seen as the "weirdos down the lane," and since this is a small town, news does travel).  *sigh*

If you can believe it, the county seat still allows the KKK to parade here.  Home birth advocates and "alterna-moms" are seen as "heretics and pagans" around here.  As you can imagine, I've not made a whole bunch of friends. (hee hee)

And, to top it off, the local WIC has just approved Nestle formula as their "formula of choice."  ICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sadly, I was a scared mom when the hospital forced formula down my twin girls.  I never had the chance to breastfeed them.  Wonderful family and friends *gave* us formula, and we were so poor we had to take it.  Yes, most of it was Nestle.  The girls both have Celiac (funny that most of Nestle's food product are gluten free--are they breeding little Future Consumers with their trash?).

We are now an informed family, and I work, everyday, to change all the trauma associated with the first years of the girls (c-section, formula, etc.).  We sleep every night in a family bed, have a vegan diet and stay attached as much as we can!

My question is, after all this rambling, is this:  How can I get a bunch of back issues to stash around the WIC offices and local hospitals (and to hand out to other moms)?  I'm not a certified anything.  Just one lone momma trying to help my community.

I'm saving up my change to get a bulk subscription for myself (and a bale of that yUmmy tea--we are trying for kiddo number three!!!!!!!), and I can keep saving to pay for the back issues.

Thank you so much for being here for us mommas (and daddas, too--my
husband *loves* your magazine).  I feel like I'm not alone.

Peace,
Kim Upton


Can Anyone Help Me?
 
My partner and I are expecting our first (combined 4th!).  We are planning a homebirth with midwives.  We want to have his children (5 yrs and 7yrs) from a previous marriage involved in not only the pregnancy and midwifery visits, but also the birth. 
 
Unfortunately, his ex is a closed minded, controlling type of person (read "witch" with a "b") and is steadfastedly refusing our requests claiming "it is not in the best interest of the children".  This is not our belief and we feel the children should have the opportunity to be involved as much as they feel comfortable (they already have been groaning because my daughter has been able to hear the baby's heartbeat, but they haven't and that their mother has told them they aren't allowed to attend the birth).
 
As we are starting the process of seeking a Court Order that will order his ex to accomodate our appointments and the birth, we are looking for articles, sites, and personal experiences that support siblings at the birth.  We are well aware that we will need some pretty convincing evidence to convince a judge that it truly is in the best interest of the children to have the opportunity for this experience, but we feel that an attempt must be made on behalf of his children. 
 
Could you post this request on the Mother so that anyone who can direct me to articles, websites or even share personal experiences can contact me?
 
Thanks,
 
Heather Ling
Email: hmling@rogers.com

My sister just had a baby (32 weeks - 4 pounds) and a nurse came into her room with a little enfamil thing on her uniform and my sister said, "Shame on you!  You shouldn't be advertising for formula companies!"  The nurse said she wasn't, Susan said, sure you are.  The lady said they were free, and Susan said of course they are in exchange for the advertisisng they get.  And the nurse said she believes ladies make their own choices and she would never tell anyone that they should breastfeed, and my sister said, (can you believe this?!) "Then you shouldn't be a nurse!"  It is your job to advocate the healthiest choices for  your patients.

This discussion went on a while, and the lady said she respected my sister's position and my sister said, "I don't respect yours."

Is she a superstar or what!  Here she is in the hospital (had been for 4 weeks!)  totally at their mercy, and she is giving them an education! The nurse came in later trying to smooth things over, and my sister held her ground.

She mentioned the Code of Ethical Marketing, the nurse didn't know what that was. I told her if she sees her again, remind her the reason she said she wears it is because it was free.  Ask her if we get her something free will she wear it instead?  (Not in addition, but I will trade her mine for hers.)

Janis Honea. Sparks, Nevada


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Although I never met Catherine, she was a great inspiration to me via her magazine, books, letters and email. My daughter was born at a midwife-attended birth, is still breastfed, not immunised and doesn't eat red meat or drink cow's milk. The day that Catherine passed into the Summerlands was bittersweet for me. It was not only my child's birthday, but a day of great tragedy in NYC. May the wings of the Goddess enfold you.                                                     
 
Christine Solosky; Mom to Emma Charlotte Groves, (5 1/2)  

For single parents,

I have one son, 10 years old and very handsome. His first name is Garrett and he was named after his father's middle name. What I love is my sons beautiful middle name, Julian, it brings to mind sensitive and serene images just as my son does.

I've been divorced well before my son was one. My son and I are very close. We both read a lot and share our times together within the world and images of literary writers.

On this message board there is much information about continuing your education. I've received my B.A. but because of the economy and war I am still awaiting my financial break. I have strong hope so know that our financial times will eventually become better.

To curb my frustrated woes, Garrett and I spend time being silly and laughing till our stomachs hurt.

Keep strong single parents. Our children won't be young, precious and beautiful forever.

Best wishes to all, Sally


Oh, my goodness, this has been wanted and needed for years...I'm a stayhome mom of four and my we are poor. Rich beyond our dreams with unconditional love from our babes though! I go to ICAN meetings , attend births with my midwife and run into pregnant moms all the time. I'd like to also drop some off at our OB clinics, rree reproductive care clinics too!
~Melody Graham, La Crosse, Wisconsin


I am a new subscriber to the Compleat Mother. I started my subscription in the first few months of my pregnancy when my midwife shared a copy of this beautiful magazine with me. I devoured each issue as it came and one of my favorite parts was looking at the beautiful pictures of nursing mothers and beautiful pregnant women. On August 10, 2001, my baby girl, Olivia, was born at home. My midwife, husband and two old friends and I had an energizing, glowing time together bringing her into the world.

~ Ainsley Camps, Nova Scotia


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What a joy it was to read my first "Mother" - it felt like coming "home." It is sometimes so difficult to be the "unusual" one of my community. However, I am standing tall and proud, continuing to breastfeed my 16 month old everywhere and anywhere I can, sharing sleep and every moment I can with this precious little boy. He was delivered by cesarean after a traumatic, failed induction and much medical "meddling." And still nursing, after all the bad advice, pacifiers and formula in my 5 day hospital stay. If I could convince my husband, I would have the next via homebirth in a second...I know what my body is built for, and I carry my heart and centre the truth, that I can birth another without interference. Thank you, Mother, for giving me the strength and whispering into my soul.

~Julie Traynor, New Jersey


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Dear Compleat Mother,
After exhausting my medical options for  an explanation I once again turn to The Mother for some insight.  After 7 years of breastfeeding my third child weaned himself  6 months ago.  Upon checking to see if I had dried up yet I discovered a black discharge from only ONE duct in my left breast only.  It doesn't leak, I only see this if I express that breast.  I have had a chronic achy pain at the lateral side of that breast for almost 6 years now.  I have had 2 mammograms, 1 ultrasound and serology testing.  All of which have come up negative.  I still have the pain and discharge and the lack of reason for this is driving me crazy.  My family history is riddled with cancer and this of course adds to my stress.  Anyone out there have something to share with me?  
Rose Sedore
rosedore@attcanada.ca

I want to thank you for all the extra back issues you included with y order a few months back.  I was able to give several friends complete sets of issues from the last couple years because of your generosity.  We look forward to reading the Mother for years to come.
Thanks again,
Elizabeth Fisher
Greensboro, NC


Thank you for the wonderful article :The Benefits of Co-Sleeping.  So many of my friends think I'm crazy for letting my baby sleep with us.  I like having him so close.  It's a great article. 
Chris

(ed. note: This is just the type of approach we need to make things happen and help make people aware. Good job, Rhonda!)

Dear Mother dear;

Hi  my  name  is Rhonda, I'm  engaged in a  verbal battle  with   the  makers  of  Life  Brand infant vitamin D drops,  I  would  dearly  love  the support  of  parents, to  have the  wording  changed on  the  boxes of vitamin D drops  from " an essential supplement  for the   breast fed  infant" to  anything  that  does  not  make  breastfeeding  women  think their children are at  risk of  rickets from  birth onward.

My letter to the LIFE BRAND INFANT  VITAMIN D Drops

  Thank You  for   your response. I  would  like to point out that a recommendation  is very  different from the  word " essential".  I  would also  like to  point  you   to   research printed in an INFACT  Canada  newsletter.
http://www.infactcanada.ca/newsletters/winter99/VitaminD.htm

More  specifically i  would  like  Shoppers Drug  mart
to note the  following research, mentioned in  the newsletter; Reported reviews of the prevalence of Vitamin D deficiency rickets also suggest otherwise. A six-year review(4) of all cases at the Calcium and Bone Clinic of the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto identified 17 cases (from January 1988 to December 1993). Parents had sought medical attention because of bowing of the lower limbs. On examination all the children had radiographic and clinical evidence of rickets. All the children presented were of African or Asian origin consumed no cow's milks were not taken outdoors regularly and if taken outdoors would be covered up. The mothers reported that they did not
drink milk or consumed vitamin supplements during pregnancy.

Similar findings5 are reported in other reviews. The Children's Hospital of New Jersey and UMD, Newark, reported only nine cases over a three-year period. All children were dark skinned, were breastfed and had restricted exposure to sunlight.

The susceptibility to vitamin D deficiency rickets, of dark-skinned infants in populations who have immigrated from tropical climates to cold northern climates has long been recognized. Higher levels of melanin, a natural sun screen, requires more exposed sunlight than white skinned populations to produce the same amount of vitamin D. And in white-skinned infants the application of sunscreen blocks the synthesis of vitamin D after ultraviolet radiation. When infants are then also confined to the indoors throughout cold winters or are fully covered, the possibility of inadequate exposure to ultraviolet light and
inadequate maternal storage increase the risk of vitamin D deficiency.

 In answer to the  recommendation of the  Canadian Pediatric Society's INFACT  says  this; A just released pamphlet* from the Canadian Pediatric Society explaining the vitamin D recommendation of the infant feeding statement, says it all. Using language designed to arouse fear in new parents, breastmilk is dismissed as nutritionally inadequate, "Breastmilk contains 15 to 40 I.U. of vitamin D per litre and does not provide your baby with an adequate intake of vitamin D". Added to this are graphic descriptions of the symptoms of rickets, all designed to create doubt and anxiety on the part of parents in a mother's ability to breastfeed. Parents are told that sunlight is not a reliable source but that a "daily vitamin D supplement is a far more reliable way." One wonders did they not read the scientific literature? Did they not read the articles about the low prevalence and that only a very select minority is at risk? Did they note in the literature that vitamin D is not naturally a dietary substance but is derived from exposure to the sun? Pushing a product with kickbacks to the profession seems to be the quick fix.

I believe  the  wording on the  front of LIFE BRAND INFANT  VITAMIN D Drops is  designed to arouse  fear in  parents. I  would  again  ask that the  wording on  the   boxes of Life Brand Infant Vitamin D  drops, be  changed,  to   reflect that  supplementation is only  recommended  for  infants  who  are  " at risk".

 I   have  emailed  INFACT  CANADA  asking  for they're assistance, in  convincing your company to comply. If  this  is  not  sufficient in   effecting the  necessary   changes,  then I  shall launch a
consumer  campaign.

 Thank  You   for   your time  involving this  matter.
Rhonda Newcombe
email: newclee@yahoo.com


Once upon a time, two brooms fell in love and decided to get married. Before the ceremony, the bride broom informed the groom broom that she was expecting a little whisk broom. 

The groom broom was aghast. "How is this possible?" he asked.  "We've never swept together."


Needs info on extended breastfeeding

Is there anywhere on the Compleat Mother site that discusses really extended nursing? I am talking about a four year old . To me, it can't really be called nursing anymore, you couldn't squeeze a drop out and there is never any swallowing and it isn't every night. Are there any other people out there other than La Leche League Leaders?  
Thanks , Sheryl 
Email: spalmer@look.ca 


Not Alone

 Just a "Thank You" for my tea order.  It arrived in the mail today (3/9/2001).

Thanks too for the extra magazines.  I will share them and try to get a few more subscribers for you.  I believe in what your magazine promotes. We are an attachment parenting, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping, cloth diapering,  non-circumcising, home birthing, home schooling family that is also questioning the use of vaccinations with our younger children.  The information you have to offer in your magazine is so helpful. It is also nice to see that there are other families out there, living as we do.

Thank you for the time and effort that is put into keeping a magazine going like Compleat Mother.  Keep up the excellent work!

Sincerely,
Amanda McGriff
(Wirt, MN.)
Email: amcgriff@mail.paulbunyan.net 


Not Alone- part 2

Please add the three years back issues to my order.  I can't wait to read them all.  I have nursed 8 babies against every one's desires, family, doctors friends  my husband has finally come around to feeling it is best and not caring about others oponion.  I am happily nursing my 13month old and hope to tandem nurse once I become pregnant and deliver our next baby!

 So happy to find I am not alone as I have felt for the past 19 years!!!
 
Thanks again
 Debbie Scarpulla

Expecting #7!

Hi MOTHER,  I just ordered a 2 yr subscription, It has been a few years since you have been coming in my mail. I thought I was finished with breastfeeding and all, I have 6 kids between 6 and 19 but SURPRISE number 7 will be here in ,march 2001. I will really be needing your support as we have moved and have no friends here  with little babes. I can hardly wait to get my  first magazine in the mail. Thank you ever so much. If there is anyone up on BCs Sunshine Coast, that has a whole lot of kids and babes and homeschooling can send me an e-mail at   fullhouse@dccnet.com   . I would love to meet you

        Thanks again    Jamie McRae
                               Gibsons, BC
                               Canada

Compassion Needed

I think sometimes that women who have not had cesarean sections can be unwittingly hard on the women who have had them.

I have undergone two cesarean sections. I've read countless anti-cesarean section articles, all written by natural childbirth advocates. I know people usually aren't intentionally mean, but... c'mon, Sisters!

I'm a mother, too.  I have a scar on my stomach--can you find it in your heart to forgive me?  I find it difficult to believe that giving birth the natural way makes me better or worse than others.   Please don't judge me.

Am I better than other women who have never gotten pregnant?  Who have had breast cancer?  No way.  I've been cut into--and until someone has gone through what I have, nobody can judge.

Beth
New York
email: bbrown@jebconet.com


Breastfeeding and knee injury
 
I injured my knees working out (squats and lunges) almost 2 years ago (November).  My daughter was 3 months old when the injury occurred.  I have since had another baby in February.  I am now tandem nursing.  I have had ultrasound therapy with semi-weekly chiropractic adjustments, acupuncture also with semi-weekly adjustments, have used heat and ice on them, have been to an orthopod, have had x-rays and an MRI (both negative) and have been through physical therapy.  The diagnosis was a muscle imbalance with the VMO (inner quad muscle) being too weak to keep the kneecap (patella) tracking properly.  Apparently, this is very common in women because of our anatomy!  Physical therapy exercises did little to alleviate the symptoms even after a month and a half of doing them twice daily. 
 
My question is this:   Can the hormones produced during pregnancy and lactation be inhibiting the healing process?  I know  of at least one hormone (prolactin) produced during lactation that is supposed to produce a relaxing effect in the mother.  Can these be softening the ligaments, etc., similar to relaxin during pregnancy, thereby making it difficult for that VMO muscle to get stronger, as well as being more prone to injury in general?  The additional nutritional demands on my body from lactating alone are depleting  my body of essential protein and other elements that increase muscle strength.  But I am at a loss as to why there has been no improvement at all in the last year or so.  It seems I have more musculoskeletal injuries since then as well.
 
Does anyone know the answer to this?  I have a feeling they may not heal completely until both babies are weaned.  I have always been very active, working out during each pregnancy and I can't say how depressing this has been.  It affects everything I do,  from getting on the floor and playing with my children to just being able to pick things up off the floor. 
 
If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it.
 
My e-mail address is kpetersfam@msn.com.
 
Thank you!
 Monica
 

Dear Mother,

 

I live on Long Island in New York.  I have breastfed all three of my children and don't want it to ever end!!  I am studying to be a lactation consultant and want you to know how much I am enjoying your magazine.  Now I can show my friends that there truly are others like me who nurse their babies exclusively, sleep in a family bed, don't own a playpen and wear their children in a carrier or sling.  As far as they are concerned I've always been a rebel and I should live on some remote island.  Thanks to you I can say nevermind the mainstream let me read my child and not the "What to expect...." series that tries to convince you to teach your child independence by letting him or her "cry it out" 10 minutes out of the womb!! 
Thanks again!

Mattrinaisa
(Matthew age 5, Marina age 4, Isabella age 8 mos.)

A Success Story

By Wanda Pendlebury

In the midst of our “hell,” imposed on us by the medical
community, I sutumbled on a copy of “Breastfeeding Anyway.” For the first item, I realized I really could succeed breastfeeding my baby.

I had the determination; I needed my purpose made clear and I needed to feel connected to other mothers who had the courage to share their advice and experience.

“Throw away the baby scales.”
”Love and cuddle your baby.”
Change the cotton diapers every time they get wet,”
and “Nurse, nurse, nurse!” This was the best advice I ever got. Life improved greatly without the stress of watching the scales; there was time for laughter and no more tears.

I was scared. I was told I was a lactation failure, and that Baby Annika would starve to death on the little milk I was producing. At two months old, she was still under her birthweight, and I had to fight with her to get her to stay more than two to five minutes on my breast.

Special thanks to my husband Douglas for believing in us, and the special midwives. Sharyne Fraser and Barbara Scriver and the life-saving lact-aid, who helped us out of our mess.

My slow-gainer, no-gainer, content-to-starve daughter did fine as I rebuilt my milk supply. When she turned 3 ½ months, it was as if a light switched on, and she just knew when she was hungry. She always had 6-8 wet cotton diapers a day and this increased to 12 or more.

Now she lifts up my shirt when she wants to nurse, and when the phone rings. If I’m reading while she’s nursing, she will push the book away so she can have all of me.

Annika turned one on Thanksgiving, and is nursing more than ever. She is not what we had been warned she would be: mentally retarded, severly deformed and with a weak immune system. In the past year she has had a runny nose only two days!

The medical community is a menace when it comes to breastfeeding and the well-being of our babies.

My daughter is walking, talking, going up and down stairs and saying “Bye-bye” to “Daddy.” She is healthy, bright, happy, and yes, still tiny.

I will happily encourage other mothers who have been told to “Give formula or we’ll contact the authorities to take your baby away.”

Wanda Pendlebury, red Deer, Alberta
tel.  (403) 342-6842


Dads visit us too

Just checked out your site and had to blab about how happy I am to find this kind of information and kinship on the internet and in your publication.  I'm a 30 year old father, attachment style parent and my wife and I have been reading your magazine for a couple of months now. We have two girls.  Eva, our four year old was a c-section through the hospital's "midwife program".  (It's like mixing oil and water...it doesn't work.)  We went with a midwife/home birth for Greta, our 7 month-old and it turned out beautifully.  Like most of your readers, we are surrounded by people that think we are taking things a bit too far, so it's good to find support in your publication.  It's great to have access to information that debunks the consumer-based profit-driven medical establishment.  It's hard being a struggling minority against the raging current of mainstream culture.  THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT GET THE TRUTH OUT THERE!!!!!  Please don't ever compromise your mission. It's beautiful and inspiring--the integrity I sense from you. 

Keith, Ma`rcia, Eva and Greta Rickert
Kansas City


Circumcision and infection

I was reading your circumcision website and I had a question.  I've heard that if a male is not circumcised he can more easily give infections to his partner is this true?

Dear reader,

No it is not true that intact men can more easily give infections to his partner. Most males in the US at this time are circumcised and this has not halted the spread of STDs.

In fact, anatomically speaking, the intact penis provides a gliding sensation during intercourse. The circumcised penis which has had its foreskin cut away, can easily cause abrasion to the mucosal tissue of his partner.

Circumcision of males or females does not provide protection from harboring or transmitting sexually transmitted diseases. If it did, what genital surgery would we recommend for females? The vulva and vagina are much more anatomically complicated than the penis. The most common genital malady is vaginal yeast infections. Individuals from middle eastern backgrounds, where female genital mutilation (FGM) is common, have proposed removing the external female genital folds to prevent yeast infections. Of course, in the US we would not even consider such sophist ideas.

An unsafe partner, one whose sexual history allows for the possibility of any kind of sexually transmitted disease must be considered high-risk for transmitting a STD to either a female or a male partner whether intact or circumcised.

Sexually respectful persons wash before for politeness and wash afterwards for prudence. Cutting away anatomical structures from genitals does not prevent disease for either the male or female.

Sincerely,
--Jody McLaughlin--



Baby keeps me up at night

I am a breastfeeding mom of a 4 1/2 month old baby and he is obviosly going through a growth spurt where he eats all the time, and all night long just taking short naps in the evening.  I can't seem to get him down to bed until at least 11:00 PM at night and I put him in his crib, then go to bed myself. He usually sleeps for 1/2 to 2 hours and then wakes up and comes into bed with me to eat all night long.

Recently he is keeping me up at night too much and not sleeping on his own well.  Is it time to mix some formula or cereal in with his breast milk to try to get him to go 3 hours between feedings?

I am somewhat of a naturalist and read Mothering Magazine about exclusive breastfeeding for 1 year, and feeding upon demand, not on a schedule.  I agree, but I am exhausted as I work full time and I am way behind and have too little time for getting anything else done. I recently feel as I can't keep up with his demand for food and can't get any sleep.

Can you help give me direction? Thank you.

Dear Joyce,

You have two critical needs right now. Providing enough milk for your child and getting much needed rest. Your other consideration is being able to function at work in addition to providing for your child's needs. It may not be possible to meet your child's needs as well as your own with the demands of a full time job.

Fatigue, in itself, is an essential element in the adjustments we must go through as parents, particularly mothers. Fatigue clears up any question about what must be done and what in not essential. Just as women frequently feel fatigue early in their pregnancies and use this time to catch up on their rest and eliminate non-essential activities, fatigue in the first weeks and months after your child's birth can help you dispense with those things which are not absolutely necessary. Some mother have described the combination of breastfeeding and fatigue as having a positive effect on their ability to intuitively know what their baby needs.

Your first priority is, of course, your child's health and well being. That means breastfeeding as well as attachment parenting which can help off-set all the hours you are away from him while you're at work. Can you postpone resuming your job responsibilities? Take him to work with you? Work fewer hours or fewer days? Have him close to work so you can nurse him during breaks and at lunch time? Does his care provider have experience caring for babies that are breastfed? Did she breastfeed her own children? Do you pump milk for him when you cannot be there to feed him from your breasts?

Nursing longer on each breast can also help to provide your child with the important, longer lasting hind milk which is higher in fat than the fore milk which babies get when they first start nursing on a breast.

I spoke with a subscriber who, although working full time in a demanding job as a Captain in the Air Force, exclusively breastfed her baby for well over a year. Her daughter slept with her and nursed all night long. Even though she provided expressed breastmilk for the babysitter to use during the day, her daughter would seldom take it, preferring to wait 'till her mom got home and then she would nurse, practically non-stop until her mother left her in the care of the sitter again the next morning. By the way, she did NOTHING else during this time except work and care for her baby. All outside distractions and activities were postponed and her husband did most of the work around the house.

Please let me know how you are doing, and what you have found to be successful in solving your dilemma.

Most Sincerely,
--Jody McLaughlin--



Opposed to Crib Article

I have a problem with the Abolish cribs article.  I am the mom of an unvaccinated, breastfed 13 month old.  However, he doesnt sleep with me and he never really  has.  I did learn how to nurse him in bed when he was less than 6 mos old so that I could sleep a little longer in the morning, but for the most part he has  been in a crib.  There is nothing wrong with either.  I agree that IF you can sleep with your child it is probably better for him/her, but there are many of us who just CANT sleep with a child in bed with them.  I could never get used to it.  I never slept well.  Since my son has been sleeping through the night, in his own bed, and in his own room.....I have gotten sleep and been a much better mom to him.  The article makes it sound like Im terrible because Im leaving him open to preditors in the house.  Thats ridiculous!  There are safety concerns with both crib and adult bed sleeping...but both can be avoided.
Thank you
Christina


Breastfeeding and birth videos

I agree that videos were more useful than what I learned in CBE classes - which were taught by a bottlefeeding RN who said, "Don't worry about the breathing, you'll have your epidural by then anyway."

One of my favorite videos was the 10 minute film "Birth in The Squatting Postion"  It looked so much EASIER that way. And, come to think of it, there were no attendants hands anywhere in the film. The babies just came out, usually in one push.

A warning about breastfeeding videos. As a LLL Leader and member of Infant Feeding Action Coalition I learned to be very careful about what videos and posters and booklets promote. Check to find out who funded it. A nurse who donated a breastfeeding poster to our LLL Group couldn't understand why we refused it. I pointed out 1) the woman in the picture was in a negligee - indicating
breastfeeding a) is okay during convalescence; or b) must be done at home, so it ties you down, limits your activities

2) The wording of the poster said "Breastfeeding ... the best food for young infants", which indicates a) breastfeeding is "food" - nothing more.
b) it's only for YOUNG infants. Not for "old" infants? Is a six-month-old a "young" infant?

We also obtained a video promoting breastfeeding - produced by a formula company. Be Careful!! Mixed in with some good breastfeeding information was a lot of crap designed to make women doubt their ability to breastfeed:
Unnecessary concern about keeping your breasts and nipples clean ( suitable for those of us who drag our nipples in the dirt I suppose); nonsense about how important it is to monitor everything you eat and drink; an implication that a father must feed the baby to bond with the baby; seeds of doubt planted and left unanswered about how to tell if your baby is getting enough... and so on.

BOOKLETS put out by formula companies make it look like the feeding methods are equal. But they are tricky - very subtle in their approach. For instance, in one booklet only the bottlefeeding mother is gazing happily into her baby's eyes. The nursing mother looks bored.

Take a closer look at your own posters, booklets, and magazine ads. You may be surprised.

Sheila
breastfeeding police ;)
Email: stubber@hotmail.com


Islamic Breastfeeding

There is a hadis on it (a hadis is like the book of psalms) Its deining gods blessings on to you. If God blessed you with milk in your breast to nourish your child why would you reject it? Rejecting Gods blessing is haram (a sin) within my faith. The hadis say feed the child with your breast till the age twice. Then he should eat from the bread and from the waters. It's something like that. You see I still have much to learn within my faith, I converted the Nov.5 of 1999.

It doesn't bother me when my son is nursing from someone else. Like my sister. Besides its not a everyday thing. Only when I see her or go over. In Islam after you breast feed a child 5 times you then become his foster mom. So now my Islamic sister is his foster mom. So my son cannot marry any of her daughters because they are now his sisters.

May allah (Arabic word for God. It doesn't show gender) bless you for it.
Peace&bless bless
Sarah G.



Questionable AD

 Dear Breastfeeding advocates;

 
I thought that you may wish to know about an ad found in the May 2000 issue of Inc Magazine placed by the company Breakaway Solutions. I have attached the part of the ad that I found questionable. Also, below please find my email to the company.
 
Jodie Gastel


click on picture for larger graphic

 
Email address of the company which published this ad:
hchapin@breakaway.com

To whom it may concern:

 
I would like to bring to your attention what I am sure was the unanticipated effect of your ad.
 
You depict an infant with what seems to be a windfall in the realm of infantdom. I understand the message you were trying to project, but, unfortunately, your ad also serves to perpetuate the thought that bottles are desirable for babies.
 
It is well-documented that bottle-fed (read formula-fed) babies have higher incidences of complications, illnesses, allergies and death.
 
And, if you need further information, consider the fact that, as a business person who now has an international presence and works closely with business decision-makers, my first reaction was "how sad." I am sure this was not the reaction you want business people to have when seeing your ad.
 
Now that I have brought this to you attention, I hope you will consider not running this type of ad in the future.
 
Should you require further information, I would be more than happy to assist you.
 
Thank you,
 
Jodie Gastel
 
Consider it Done

Cancelled Subscription

Dear Mother,

Please cancel my subscription to The Compleat Mother immediately,

The Pornography, Earth worship, the extremely anti-Biblical child trianing (sic) philosophy, are all a serious offense to God who created this world & told us in His Word how we should live.

I will pray to God that He have mercy on
you, & show you His truth, & deliver you from Satan's truth that you have been preaching.

        In Christian Love
               (name and address withheld)

(Ed. note: I wonder what "Biblical" child training involves)



Sainsbury's Insanity
by Kelly Barrett

I relactated against all opinion and my baby's didn't increase for ages. In the spring I was breastfeeding my 11- week-old daughter Amaya at Sainsbury's supermarket.

I was carrying her in a sling, one l can easily feed in which covers most  of  my chest.  l was wearing a specially designed breastfeeding top which has an  opening only at the breast. She was wearing a winter hat that was too large for her head and l was wearing a large jacket. You can imagine how much of my body I was revealing.

I was near the front of the store waiting for my husband to pay for a drink,  before we began our shopping,. A security guard came over to ask me  if  l would go and sit somewhere more comfortable.

He returned with the manager, John Lambert, who asked me to go to the ladies' room.  Breastfeed on the toilet or leave Sainsbury's premises, he said.  He added I was making the customers  uncomfortable.

My husband Steve  asked if we could continue our  shopping, as I can easily feed and walk with my sling. Not while you are breastfeeding, he said. It's not natural!  After a few angry words, security firmly placed his hand on Steve's  shoulder  and we were directed out of the store. The guard said he too has a baby but his wife chooses to feed more privately!

I called Sainsbury's and spoke to Colin Pidduck who said  they  stand by their manager's decision. Sainsbury's was the first UK retailer to publicly announce  their support for  breastfeeding , yet  I was treated like a  strange exhibitionist

Kelly Barrett 70 Wells Rd
Glastonbury Somerset BA6 9BR
steve@u-global.com

How to reach Sainsburys by email:
feedback@sainsburys.co.uk


Baby Killed by Forceps

On another subject, I just found out a cousin (also a good friend) just lost her baby.  The mum-to-be had high blood pressure and was induced.  The baby was born dead.  We assumed it had something to do with the high blood pressure, but we just received the autopsy results.  The baby was perfectly healthy.  She (it was a girl) died from a brain hemorrhage.  The hemorrhage, we have been told specifically, was cause by the forceps.

I don't know what will happen now.  Needless to say we are all very upset by this.

I know you often have wonderful poems about this kind of loss.  I have every one of your magazines since 1993 but they are on loan to a friend.  Do you have any handy that you could email me?  Do you recommend any books?

Thank you,

Your friend

Michelle Elston Hoban


Mistake

After an amazing home birth,  I had difficulty nursing my son, but thanks to an amazing birth attendant, we finally had it working.  Then my son developed pyloric stenosis and needed surgery, we breastfed through the hospital stay and for three days at home.  Then stupidly we went away for the weekend and screwed up the whole thing.  Our nursing fate was doomed when we visited our anti home birth doctor and was told that he had lost weight since his hospital discharge and needed formula.  That was a HUGE mistake,  we quit breastfeeding 3 days later.  My son just finished his first round of antibiotics yesterday!  His sister went through the same trouble with her ears but was fine when switched to soy formula at a Homeopath's suggestion ( my doctor wanted to have tubes but in her ears at 8 months).  We've tried soy with Matthew and he cannot seem to tolerate it.  What do I do?  Are there alternatives to commercial formulas?  Can I put him on goats milk exclusively ( he does well on this).  He is 7 months old and does eat many solids. Any help you or the readers can be would be soooooo appreciated! E- Mail me  at AWILSON-MCNABB@MAILCITY.COM



Out of the mouths of babes...

The following letter is in response to my article "Is It Time to Abolish Cribs?" at
http://www.naturalchild.com/jan_hunt/abolish_cribs.html

Jan

Dear Jan,

Thank you for a very thorough and beautifully stated article.  On her first visit to her new cousin's home, my (co-sleeping) three year old pointed to the crib and asked "Is that Emma's little baby cage?".

I'll be sending your words to my sister, now pregnant with her second.  I wish everyone could read what you wrote.

Sincerely,
S. McDonald


Hi like-minded moms,

I recently gave birth (at home, but that is another story) to my second daughter.  Now my first daughter who is almost 21 months old has dramatically increased her demands for nursing to the point where she has almost stopped eating solid foods.  I don't want to stop nursing her because I know she finds it very comforting, but I am getting so tired.  I have yet to find a comfortable position to nurse a big one and a little one, and in bed at night I am constantly turning from one side to the other to satisfy them both and I get little or no sleep.  Does anyone have any advice or information for me, we would all be very grateful?!?

Sincerely,
Marni Macdonald
malmac3@hotmail.com

Dear Marni,

The situation you described sounds a lot like mine, even though my oldest  was no longer nursing by the time her sister was born. My daughters were 2 1/2 years apart and I was exhausted too.
Whether we are nursing one or two or even three children, when the nursing toddler feels that we are pulling away from breastfeeding them, they seen to be even more intent on having access to the breast. It sometimes helps to remember the gifts they are giving us each time they nurse, specifically the release of hormones into our system which frequently help us to become more intuitive, resourceful and creative.

I also have come to believe that exhaustion can be a friend to us mothers. It helps us focus on that which is truly important and let a lot of the other things slide. Let me know if any of this is at all helpful.

Jody McLaughlin
Compleat Mother Editor U.S. 


Make It Personal

   If I talk to women about circumcision and they don't seem to get it, then I  make it personal. Sometimes I tell a story.(This probably works best woman to woman) I'll tell them to imagine that they are admitted to a hospital for some minor surgery. Upon waking up from the anesthesia, you realize that your inner labia and the hood over your clitoris have been cut off. When you confront your doctor he explains that the tissue that was removed was "redundant" and not necessary for sexual functioning. He goes on to say that  you will be much easier to clean, have less odor, that there will be less chance of infection, and that he felt that you would look "better", more aesthetic. He says that when he gave all of the "risks" and "benefits" to your family, they gave informed consent for the procedure. How would you  feel? Now imagine that you were awake and resisting, but they did it anyway.

 If they don't get it right away, they usually will later when they are alone.

        Susan Peer, East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania



(Response to a letter from a woman who lost a child)

I am a midwife, a CPM.  I attend waterbirths in my client's homes.  I have also participated in a seminar given on toxic and dangerous situations for pregnant women given by our state's expert on that sort of thing.  The session did not go into great detail about waterbirth--it wasn't even mentioned, that I recall, but they focused more on hot tubs and had done
some studies on their use.

What they found was that in order to raise a woman's core body temperature, one would have to be IN the hot tub for over 2 days!!

It would seem unlikely that any laboring woman would stay in any one place, especially a tub, for that long.  I guess if the water in your birthing pool burned your skin, then you may have caused some harm to the baby.  But if it only felt too hot...

It took me a very long time to understand that sometimes babies just die. It isn't anyone's fault.  Sometimes it is someone's fault, but can only be learned with 20/20 hindsight--it was not neglectful or intentional, only something that could be seen after the fact.  Cesareans do not necessarily save lives, they many times only give the impression of being a miracle.

Many, many babies die after c-secs and their mothers spend their entire labor in a hospital with all the monitors and gadgets and high-tech staff, doctors with degrees up the wazoo, etc.

It took a very long time for me to move through the grieving stages. Back then, a stillborn was considered to be a non-person.  I was not allowed to see or hold my baby. They refused to tell me the sex. The hospital staff was cold and indifferent.  My friends and relatives abandoned me because they didn't know what to say--so they said nothing and hurt me beyond words.

Some members of my family said really stupid things like "you're young, you can have more" or "It's God's will..." "It's probably for the best because that baby maybe had awful things wrong with it" etc.  I was inconsolable.

Only one sister and one friend were there for me (and my dear husband). No reason for the death was ever found.

I find some comfort in these words which are from a book that is in some Bibles: Wisdom of Solomon 4:13-14:  "He, being made perfect in a short time, fulfilled a long time: for his soul pleased the Lord: therefore hasted he to take him away from among the wicked."

My best friend lost a 4 month old daughter to SIDS.  I've had clients who lost their babies to genetic anomalies, SIDS, and an unknown cause at 2 years.  Last week, for the second time, I learned that another of my clients lost her husband--a 28 year old healthy man who got sick one day and died the next leaving behind three children, including an 18 month old.

There ARE no guarantees in life.  Birth is as safe as life gets.  You know you did everything in your power to have a healthy baby, but a power greater than you had other plans for that baby.  Work to release the anger, grieve for your lost dreams for that baby.  Make peace with yourself.

Warmly,
Yvonne Lapp Cryns
Website: http://www.weedpatch.com/home.html
Email: ycryns@hotmail.com 



Don't Give Up!

Last time I wrote, I was expecting my second
long-awaited child after five ectopic pregnancies.

Leif was born 13 months ago and is the joy of
our lives, along with six-year old Eve.

Believe it or not, I'm expecting again in April!
This is my eighth pregnancy and my one
remaining tube seems, finally, to be clear.

If you have recurring tubals, don't give up.
Find a good doctor and keep trying.  We thought we would be childless, or a one-child family; now we are more blessed than ever.

Now I need information about tandem feeding!

Sandy Magnussen, Halfmoon Bay, British Columbia
email: smagnussen@sd46.bc.ca


Stay-At-Home-Mom
   
I live in a progressive, smallish-sized (16,000 pop.) town in Oregon, but still sometimes feel that being a "stay-at-home" mom just is not valued anymore.  A male friend of a girlfriend of mine once said (upon hearing I was a "stay-at-home" Mom), "Oh, so you're like a woman of the 50's huh?"  I am far from a woman of the 50's.  My husband may not do a whole lot of housework (arg!), but he doesn't get mad if the house is messy when he gets home or if he has to fend for himself for dinner.  I try to have these things done, because I appreciate the fact that he goes to work and school to support us, so I can stay home with our children.

Then there are always relatives who put off that "well, if you're struggling so much, then why don't you get off your lazy butt and get a job" vibe.  I even had a girlfriend recently, (who I knew years ago, and who recently moved back to my area as a single mother of three boys) tell me the other day that she has issues with stay-at-home mothers.  That she cleaned house for a lot of stay-at-home mothers in California and she thinks "they" are of no service to society.  That "they" are out of touch with reality.  She went on and on, I couldn't get a word in edge wise!  I didn't want to.  I did however wonder how it all applied to me.  Did she mean me, or just those "other" stay-at-home moms?

    My questions are, why should the children suffer?  Why should they be raised in day care centers by virtual strangers?   People who have no emotional bond or attachment with them (granted there are a few gifted child care providers out there).

It is too bad that this magazine is one of our only saving graces in this bewildering society, but at least we have it and each other.   Thank you.
Shamron Cook
Ashland, OR
Email: cook0186@students.sou.edu


Dear Mother,

What a breath of fresh air your magazine is!!!!!!!!! AAh. Finally, a magazine that doesn't tippy toe around what people are REALLY thinking and feeling. I subscribe to mothering, but feel that it is becoming rather bland and stilted. I am in an eddy so far out of the "main stream" now that I get an involuntary twitch whenever I pick up a copy of "parenting" or American Baby. blech, icko, yuck yuck yuck. Its so nice to read real, passionate, opinions and stories, as well as the article snippets.  How did
you get started? How long have you been published?

Anyway, will you please send a gift subscription to my dear friend who just had her second natural unvaccinated waterbirth baby?

Cathy
Seattle, WA 

Dear Cathy,

Compleat Mother was started 15 years ago by a disgruntled X-LLL Leader who was writing articles for a parenting magazine in Canada. She submitted a wonderful article about the exquisite birth of her son. They did not want to publish it; instead they asked her to go to a big city hospital and do a story on all the tiny babies in the NICU and take pictures, especially close-ups of the tubes running in and out of the little babies bodies. She quit writing for them and used the birth article she wrote in the first issue of Compleat Mother.

--Jody--


I love The Mother and regularly  give my issue to my midwifery clients to read and pass on to others.  Thank you for such an incredible contribution to mothers out there that are walking the road less traveled!  You keep us inspired!

Jana Claflin, L.A.M.  Alamogordo,  New Mexico
email cclaflin@totacc.com


Motivated Mother

Three weeks ago, I visited our local Parks and Recreation swimming pool with my two young sons and my nursing 6 month old daughter.  During this moms and tots time, my baby became fussy and needed to nurse.  I quickly ran to the changeroom and retrieved my terry robe cover-up.  I then sat on the edge of the pool deck with my legs dangling in the water and proceeded to discreetly nurse my daughter, Charlotte.  After several minutes, the pool supervisor approached me and asked me to take my daughter into the changeroom and nurse her there.  When I asked her why I should do this, she replied that there was fear that I could be offending some of the other patrons.  Of course I refused!  I explained that both my daughter and I had a legal right to be there.  With this said, she quickly took back her words and scuttled away to her office.  I still can't believe that in this day and age, people are so ignorant about the value of breastfeeding.  As a mother of five breastfed children ages 11, 9, 5, 3, and 6 months, it still annoys me when people take offense to this very natural and beautiful way of nurturing your children.  I plan to contact the Parks and Recreation Commissioner to find out what their policy is regarding breastfeeding so that our rights can be clarified for all staff.  No one else needs to be embarassed by a situation such as this again!

Sincerely,
Liz Fry
Markham, Ontario, Canada

Followup from Liz Fry 

July 26, 1999

I thought that I'd send you an update on the e-mail that I sent you previously. 

I just received a letter from the Commissioner of Parks and Recreation in Markham.  He apologized on behalf of the Town.  It seems that nursing on the pool deck IS permitted.  He explained that the employee in question had just recently returned from University, and wasn't familiar with Markham's policy regarding breastfeeding at the pool.  However, she had worked at another facility outside of Markham where mothers who needed to nurse their babies were asked to leave the pool deck.  He also mentioned that aquatic staff trainings occur four times a year on a seasonal basis.  In this instance, she missed the training due to the date she started work.  This created a "knowledge gap". 

As a result of my letter, he has asked staff to ...

1. Document the policy in the Recreation Services policy manual.

2. Establish a process that will ensure this type of "knowledge gap" does not occur in the future. 

He also apologized for my embarassment and discomfort and reassured me that necessary action will be taken to ensure that knowledge of Town policies and procedures by staff is thorough.  Hopefully incidents such as mine will never happen again.

I am very pleased!!!!!!

Liz Fry
Markham, Ontario, Canada

[Ed. note] A friend of mine once said to me: "The difficult can be done immediately; the impossible just takes a little longer."

Well done, Liz!


Concerned Physician

Comments: You should really be ashamed of yourselves. The misinformation in your publication the Compleat Mother can only be described as moronic. Please get a grip on reality. I know it won't happen, but it would benefit people who mistakenly come upon your journal and believe what they read.
Thursday April 29th 1999 10:56:17
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HEP V and My Vaccine Damaged Son

I was required to have my children immunized against Hepatitis B.   The literature stated that "no known serious reactions have been associated with the Hepatitis  B vaccine".   I made what I thought was informed decision based on this information.   

    On May 28,1999 my 10 year old son Robert and his 13 year old brother received the first of three "mandatory" Hepatitis B vaccines.  My 10 year old son experienced mental, physical and personality deviations almost immediately.   Five days later the left side of his face was paralyzed followed shortly by his left arm, then his abominable muscles and legs.  He has been diagnosed with Central Nervous System demylination/autoimmune disorder from serious adverse reaction to Hepatitis B.   The prognosis and severity of both are unknown.  There are no practice standards of treatment.

    The FDA, CDC and MERCK the maker of the vaccine don't know how to cure Robert.  They  keep a record of these reactions in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System to monitor the frequency of very serious reactions.  They classified what was done to Robert as an "Expected Experience".

I certianly didn't expect it.

Many otheres have been injured by vaccines; the American Association of Physicians and Surgeon spoke out against this vaccine website: www.aapsonline.org after new studies have shown there is 100 times greater chance of being injured from the vaccine than by the actual disease.   

Beth Topp
Robert's Mom
661-824-1032
P O BOX 1007
Rosamond CA 93560
mstopp@as.net


Better  Choices
                                                          by Lu Johnston

I hate to hear of abortion being used as a means of birth control.  Like caesareans, it turns our bodies over to the medical (usually male) establishment to "fix everything".  In the process, many women suffer physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

We need to start off by taking good care of ourselves before and during our pregnancies. We bond with our babies, respect our bodies and try to birth gently.  We raise our children
with respect as we teach them to respect themselves and others.  We try hard to satisfy their needs for love with physical nurturing so they don't need to seek these outside the home. 

Breastfeeding is an excellent way to help us learn about and meet these needs during their first couple of years.  It helps us to get to know our children so we can continue to understand
what they need as they continue to grow. 

Throughout their lives we teach our children about their fertility, the wonderful gift and responsibility it is.  I would like to see all boys and girls learn about fertility cycles and signs. The Billings and Justisse Methods are two good resources.  Then, just as we educate and empower ourselves to avoid having caesarean births, we teach our children their choices to avoid abortion.  Hopefully we can raise children with enough self esteem respect and knowledge to make decisions that are in their best interest and respect the rights of others.             

Lu Johnston, Mississauga, Ontario


Valentine for a Breastfeeding Mom

On Valentine's day, Erin Clatney's boss gave her this greeting: "Quit breastfeeding."

The mother of two worked at Johnny Farina's restaurant at 216 Elgin St.,  Ottawa, through her pregnancy, and went back to work when baby Charlotte was six months old.

On Feb. 14th she was told to take a month of without pay, and wean her daughter.

Erin Clatgney quit work rather than quit breastfeeding, and has filed a complaint with the Human Rights Commission.  The Ministry of Labour assures her she
has been discriminated against under the Charter of Rights and Freedom.
  Email her at:
cleoc@sprint.ca
Her address:
Erin Clatney
59 Waverley Rd
Ottawa Ontario K2P 0T7


 

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